It's hard to guage damage before cooldown, as it implies that the user always spams R1 as hard as they can without letting the sink lower at all.

Most meaning what exactly? MLT Caldari Heavies are lunch to SCRs if they don't stack armor, and MLT Minmatar Heavies may as well be free kills against it.

If it's damage bias is extreme (20% or higher), then yes I am. Unless you are using a niche weapon and inside that niche, you should never be able to kill someone with such an extreme damage bias, as you sacrifice your effectiveness against one type of tank (Shields/Armor) for extreme effectiveness against another (Armor/Shields).

What I'm trying to say, is that Scrambler Rifles already excel at what they were designed to do, and because of this they need no adjustments.


And I can take out armor tankers with my Laser Rifle without overheating. It's not an accurate comparison, as one is a niche weapon while the other is a Rifle. Though if your killing shield tankers with MDs, it's because they either stood there and didn't seek cover (which is an issue of player incompetence) or were caught in a situation where they had a low amount of HP to the point where anything would have killed them (which is not a valid basis for any comparison)

Not to mention, the seize time on SCRs is shorter than the time it takes to empty 1 MD clip.

No, you cannot nerf armor simply because you can't handle making sacrifices. Nerfing Armor would result in a lower TTK, and as Uprising 1.4 - 1.7 showed us, is not healthy for the game.

Are you implying that the scrambler overheat mechanic is balanced? What with it having by far the lowest damage per clip/cooldown?? (between 50-66% of the other rifles?) EDIT: incidently it is not enough to kill most militia heavies even if you land every single shot]

Or are you implying that the weapon is only really balanced on the amarr assault, and that the scrambler is pretty worthless on other suits?

Or beyond that.. are you implying that armor focused weaponry shouldn't be able to kill shield tankers in one clip?

"good" SR users dont simply allow it to over-heat in combat.

btw, its totally balanced and fine.
its meant to kill shield tankers quickly and it does for the most part so idk why you are complaining.
back in the day the SR could kill anything, but now you need more shot to kill armor tanked suits so its not incredibly OP.
i can effiecently kill an armor tank suit without over heating or on the last shot that over heats.

so for a weapon that has the ability to one shot shields you want it to do more dmg to armor? lol bad idea is bad.
i can handle alomst all tpyes of people with a std-adv scrambler rifle and even if they are a bit much to handle i will use tactics and the enviorement to my advantage.

the SR can has the abitlity to one shot mitila lights and mediums and some std suits but its still not considered OP and it can handle its own weight fairly well in combat.
TBH, i ust think its how you use it. if you use it at range then you will have a better chance at killing them as they get closer and when in CQC you maximize your efforts towards killing them as long as you know you at least have a chance against them

and also, since its an amarr weapon itsd meant for minmatar suits who mostly shield tank and can wipe out minmatar fairly easily while the CR can kill an amarr suit fairtly well as long as you land all the shots.

actgually my thought process was thinking you want to buff dmg but then i remembered that this is a "reduce heat build-up" thread, and i didnt mean sniper rifle, i use SR to abbreviate scrambler rifle. i think the heat build up is fine because im use to using it as a fowrard assault/suppreser role when i do, so i see no prblems with it.

even on my lvl 1 amarr assault its perfectly fine to use and i have no problems with heat build up or over heating. when i do over heat i am usually at a range and am over heating out of desperation from Wanting to kill a specific target.

Finally. Something sensible as opposed to "hurr durr we can't kill armur tankurs! we needs burffs!"

A sensible solution to that problem, would be to remove the Amarr Assault's bonus, and apply it to all the Laser Weapons instead, making it a viable choice on Dropsuits other than the Amarr Assault without lowering the TTK.

Of course then we'd have to think up another bonus for the Amarr Assault.

I recently used the AScR and it was perfectly fine dps wise. I killed as few heavies with less than one clip and never over heated either. I had no problem killing people and I had no problem over heating.

even using the std ScR was easy. I could kill about anything and never over heated. it's not like I need 20 shots to kill someone. it has the dps to kill a person, even some heavies. I see no reason to decrease heat build up.

In fact the Amarr got the inhate more Stamina, but CCP forgot they slowed them..making the "inhate" useless.